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Post by jcoldwell on Jul 2, 2009 16:29:56 GMT -5
This has been in the works for some time and now that I have some rule changes that I believe that will make the league better and let general managers be more active, I thought I would let everyone read them and see what everyone thinks.
The first rule change I have made is to the PROSPECT SIGNING RULE. Everyone should know how the rule was and now this is how it will be come the 2009/2010 season.
You won't have to sign your own prospects to a contract as they will be given the actual NHL entry level contract by their actual NHL team, once the entry level contract runs out then that is when the GM of the TFNHL will negotiate a new contract.
The second rule is the ACQUIRING A PROSPECT/PLAYER rule. As we are all aware that the rule was that you could only sign a player over the age of 20 and you could only sign only two players per season, and so forth.
For the 2009/2010 season, the rule is now that we are implementing a waiver rule. How this works is that if there is a player that is not on a TFNHL team (main roster, farm roster or prospects list) then you can send in a waiver claim and see if you get that said player. If you are putting a claim in on a prospect the prospect that is being claimed must have been through the previous draft and undrafted. There is also no limitations on how many players you can claim per year, but you must still be within the salary cap and floor. Along with roster limitations.
If 2 or more teams try to claim the same player, the team with the lowest winning percentage gets said player. This also goes with the off season waiver claims.
Waivers will be done 2 times per month (date will be determined at a later time), and during the off season, waivers will be done once a month (more on that in the near future).
If you are going to use waivers I ask you to pm me with your claims until I set up an alternate email account strictly for waivers. I will post the email once I am done and have it set up.
The third rule change is the SOFT SALARY CAP AND FLOOR.
As the 2009/2010 season starts there will be a hard salary cap and floor. This means that every team must be within the cap and floor set by the TFNHL. GM's must keep up to date on where they are in cap relations and manage their team accordingly. No trade will be allowed if the trade puts a team below or above the floor or cap.
The fourth and final rule change going into the 2009/2010 season is the following...MID SEASON RERATES.
At this point forward, there will be no more mid season rerates or prospect creations as we as a league are using NHL rerates and not sim rerates.
I believe that to be full NHL rerate league, then we can't combine both NHL and sim rerates into this league.
If anyone has questions regarding the rule changes please don't hesitate to ask as I will kindly explain then in great detail to whoever asks.
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Post by hedrick on Jul 2, 2009 18:04:24 GMT -5
I agree with everything accept the midseason rerate rule... The only time the league has to edit the ratings is at the beginning of the season.
Maybe we should have the option to
A)increase a players ratings if he is in the top 10-15 of that statistical section B)creating a prospect who has played in 25 games by midseason
obviously if the player trails off during the 2nd half, the NHL rerates will show that...
if we want to be a full NHL rerate league, we will give the stars and/or rookies of the 1st half their due... not based on their SIM performance, but based on their NHL performance.
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Post by jcoldwell on Jul 2, 2009 18:09:28 GMT -5
Here is the waiver email that I have for this league, when waivers start please send all waiver claims to this email address.
tfnhlwaiver@gmail.com
Please don't send pm's or to any other email account. Reason being is that I am trying to keep everything seperate.
Thanks.
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Post by jcoldwell on Jul 2, 2009 18:12:07 GMT -5
I agree with everything accept the midseason rerate rule... The only time the league has to edit the ratings is at the beginning of the season. Maybe we should have the option to A)increase a players ratings if he is in the top 10-15 of that statistical section B)creating a prospect who has played in 25 games by midseason obviously if the player trails off during the 2nd half, the NHL rerates will show that... if we want to be a full NHL rerate league, we will give the stars and/or rookies of the 1st half their due... not based on their SIM performance, but based on their NHL performance. I don't see how that would be a benefit for the league. I don't think it would be fair to give certain players an increase in ratings when they have a good 1st half and not decrease the ratings for players who don't live up to expectations. Also when the ratings come out in the off season, it would just mean someone went through and rerated players for nothing. I just don't see the benefit of having mid season rerates.
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Post by kingme on Jul 2, 2009 18:15:33 GMT -5
Great! Thanks, Jason, for putting this together. As a junior member of the league, these seem like fair and logical changes.
Question1: Does the "no re-rate" rule also apply to rookies?
Question2: When you say, "no more mid-season... prospect creations", can you please explain in more detail? Is this saying that an NHL player (i.e. an NHL rookie) that is playing in NHL but does not exist in the SIM cannot be signed in TFNHL or created in the SIM until the following off-season?
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Post by hedrick on Jul 2, 2009 18:25:00 GMT -5
I agree with everything accept the midseason rerate rule... The only time the league has to edit the ratings is at the beginning of the season. Maybe we should have the option to A)increase a players ratings if he is in the top 10-15 of that statistical section B)creating a prospect who has played in 25 games by midseason obviously if the player trails off during the 2nd half, the NHL rerates will show that... if we want to be a full NHL rerate league, we will give the stars and/or rookies of the 1st half their due... not based on their SIM performance, but based on their NHL performance. I don't see how that would be a benefit for the league. I don't think it would be fair to give certain players an increase in ratings when they have a good 1st half and not decrease the ratings for players who don't live up to expectations. Also when the ratings come out in the off season, it would just mean someone went through and rerated players for nothing. I just don't see the benefit of having mid season rerates. It would benefit the league by making it more NHL rerate friendly. Having a player with a 60 SC rating on your team isnt great, might as well stick him in the farm, except when you see him in the NHL putting 25-30 by mid year... wouldnt you want him to get a bump in scoring? We could also say for every player you get rerated, you have to take a hit on a player that is underperforming... like a forsberg perhaps?
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Post by tampagm on Jul 2, 2009 20:14:59 GMT -5
First of all Jason, thank you for taking the time to do this. It is appreciated.
I think your rules are fair. The waiver system makes sense - makes it easy on you and gives GMs an opportunity to sign guys.
My only concern is with the salary floor. Obviously, as the owner of a team in serious rebuilding, this is an issue for me specifically, but I've seen how it works in other leagues and I'm not quite a fan, because in sim leagues it's more out of whack than in real life.
This is complicated by the fact that we have a player agent system. In my past attempts to sign quality players, I have often been turned down for less money in place of a team that is in a position to win. This happened more than once last off-season as I tried to add more talent to my team. Now this is fair, especially since my team is averaging about 10 wins a season, but that would only be acceptable in the case of the lack of a salary floor, so that as my draft picks evolve, and my teams get better, my franchise will then be attractive enough to sign players at fair value.
As long as there is this arbitrary system, a team like mine is stuck with either a) signing a poorer player and being stuck to sign for multiple years just to get ourselves over the cap floor, or b) we end up below the floor.
I don't mind signing quality players at quality values, but as long as the field is slanted against me, my rebuilding process is hampered unfairly. If it means signing a guy to a rediculous one or two year deal, then maybe there's a chance, but unless it's a metric-based free agency process I have concerns about the negative impact of the floor.
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Post by jcoldwell on Jul 2, 2009 20:44:02 GMT -5
Great! Thanks, Jason, for putting this together. As a junior member of the league, these seem like fair and logical changes. Question1: Does the "no re-rate" rule also apply to rookies? Question2: When you say, "no more mid-season... prospect creations", can you please explain in more detail? Is this saying that an NHL player (i.e. an NHL rookie) that is playing in NHL but does not exist in the SIM cannot be signed in TFNHL or created in the SIM until the following off-season? Michael, To answer your question about rookie rerates and prospect creations. For example, if you have a rookie (John Tavares), just to take a name, he won't be rated until the following season that he plays in the NHL. So if JT plays in the 09/10 season for the NY Islanders, then he won't be available in the TFNHL until the 10/11 season once the DVHL ratings come out. As for rookie rerates, again it would be the same as a veteran player in the TFNHL, no mid season rerates. Hopefully that explains it a bit better. If not let me know.
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Post by jcoldwell on Jul 2, 2009 20:51:12 GMT -5
First of all Jason, thank you for taking the time to do this. It is appreciated. I think your rules are fair. The waiver system makes sense - makes it easy on you and gives GMs an opportunity to sign guys. My only concern is with the salary floor. Obviously, as the owner of a team in serious rebuilding, this is an issue for me specifically, but I've seen how it works in other leagues and I'm not quite a fan, because in sim leagues it's more out of whack than in real life. This is complicated by the fact that we have a player agent system. In my past attempts to sign quality players, I have often been turned down for less money in place of a team that is in a position to win. This happened more than once last off-season as I tried to add more talent to my team. Now this is fair, especially since my team is averaging about 10 wins a season, but that would only be acceptable in the case of the lack of a salary floor, so that as my draft picks evolve, and my teams get better, my franchise will then be attractive enough to sign players at fair value. As long as there is this arbitrary system, a team like mine is stuck with either a) signing a poorer player and being stuck to sign for multiple years just to get ourselves over the cap floor, or b) we end up below the floor. I don't mind signing quality players at quality values, but as long as the field is slanted against me, my rebuilding process is hampered unfairly. If it means signing a guy to a rediculous one or two year deal, then maybe there's a chance, but unless it's a metric-based free agency process I have concerns about the negative impact of the floor. Damian, Thanks for the concern, as of right now the salary floor in the NHL is $40,800,000 so it would be that for the TFNHL. If I find that too many teams are above the cap or below the floor then I will adjust the cap/floor accordingly to help out those teams. I do realize that we technically aren't using NHL salaries so as a league we may have to raise and lower the salary cap/floor accordingly. I will take a week or so and do some calculations on teams salary and where they stand and figure out if the cap ($56,800,000/team) and the floor ($40,800,000/team) is reasonable. There could be some changes. Again if there is still questions please don't hesitate to ask.
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Post by jcoldwell on Jul 2, 2009 20:54:29 GMT -5
I don't see how that would be a benefit for the league. I don't think it would be fair to give certain players an increase in ratings when they have a good 1st half and not decrease the ratings for players who don't live up to expectations. Also when the ratings come out in the off season, it would just mean someone went through and rerated players for nothing. I just don't see the benefit of having mid season rerates. It would benefit the league by making it more NHL rerate friendly. Having a player with a 60 SC rating on your team isnt great, might as well stick him in the farm, except when you see him in the NHL putting 25-30 by mid year... wouldnt you want him to get a bump in scoring? We could also say for every player you get rerated, you have to take a hit on a player that is underperforming... like a forsberg perhaps? Again, I appreciate the feedback, but I am also looking at the fact that if we take 3 players per team to rerate that is 90 players to rerate, then we would have to rerate 90 other players to level the playing field. To me that is too much work that would go to waste for whoever does it and then have DVHL to reverse or improve the ratings. As a league we would be stuck in a rut every year with this.
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Post by LeafsGM on Jul 2, 2009 21:24:14 GMT -5
I could go along with any rule changes that come there is no problem there. Waivers as it is to work will get no leg work from me. I am not about to read for however long and then submit a player for someone else to put a claim on. As for the present signing of players not belonging to TFNHL teams, I didn't know there was a limit on that. To further explain my second paragraph. Last month a goalie I signed years ago after he went 14-0 to start the year died in a car accident. Also last month at the draft there was a player that will go to court on a manslaughter charge.
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Post by LeafsGM on Jul 6, 2009 16:00:39 GMT -5
The only waivers that we have had in the TFNHL the last 2 years has been when sending in lines. Are we having a pre/post-season waiver draft? I have a couple of names I have been hanging on to for 2 years that I am itching to drop on here.
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Post by jcoldwell on Jul 6, 2009 18:41:24 GMT -5
The only waivers that we have had in the TFNHL the last 2 years has been when sending in lines. Are we having a pre/post-season waiver draft? I have a couple of names I have been hanging on to for 2 years that I am itching to drop on here. I wasn't thinking of doing a pre/post waiver draft, but just opening up waivers in the next couple of days. Waivers will be every month for the offseason (most likely on the 15th or 30th) of each month. And once we start the regular season it will be done twice a month (15th and 30th) of each month.
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