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Post by NY Rangers GM on Mar 13, 2007 7:04:14 GMT -5
I agree with the Ducks. Drafting coahces every year seems weird. WHy not just sign coahces on? Rick - the newbee Well, the entire list in regard to coaches was Martin's idea, so I am not sure why he is against the coach draft now. As for why the draft? Simple. We haven't updated coaches in 3 years (perhaps even more) some teams have coaches that are no longer NHL coaches, etc.... if we just do a free-for-all we are simply saying that teams with lots of $$$ will get all of the good coaches... drafting them, makes it a little bit more fair... plus, remeber, even if you have drafted a coach, you have to sign him... if you are, for example a rebuilding team with a bunch of kids and decided to draft Lemaire, he might not want to sign with you, opting to hold out and coach a contender...
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Post by NY Rangers GM on Mar 13, 2007 7:04:47 GMT -5
I agree with Martin and Rick. The game has to be relistic and signing coaches every year??? I don't know about that ? Seems weird Who said anything about every year? You sign a coach to a contract, it might be one year or it might be 5 years..
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Post by NY Rangers GM on Mar 13, 2007 7:06:03 GMT -5
I agree with dropping the waiver draft, because I believe the NHL dropped the waiver draft in the new CBA as well. Also, this is probably off topic, but I always thought we should get rid of the soft cap and just mark a hard cap to sort of follow the NHL's cap, like next year its suppose to be around 48 mill. I figured this would be easier on the commish not having to figure out luxury taxes and stuff. I'll double check on the waiver draft.... as for the Salary Cap, I'll post a poll...
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Post by rick on Mar 13, 2007 7:10:42 GMT -5
I'm down with both of those ideas One hard cap Start fresh with coaches this year, but sign on guys for contracts. There salary shouldn't count against the cap, but obviously will affect the team's finances.
Another thought to bring up. I heard that the draft is done by ping pong balls instead of last - first. Is this true? Is this to avoid teams purposely losing games? Just curious
Rick
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Post by NY Rangers GM on Mar 13, 2007 7:43:46 GMT -5
The "ping-pong balls" are just for the lottery for the non-playoff teams and yes, the idea behind it is to prevent "tanking" games...
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Post by NY Rangers GM on Mar 13, 2007 7:44:12 GMT -5
I am talking about entry draft though... we won't have lottery for the coaches draft
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Post by NY Rangers GM on Mar 13, 2007 7:46:20 GMT -5
Also, waiver draft - there is a short thread below and Wayne made a very good point there. So, based on that, this year, while UFA age is 30 we will have ONE LAST waiver draft. Next season, when UFA age is lowered to 28, we will NOT have any more waiver drafts.
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Post by rick on Mar 13, 2007 7:54:11 GMT -5
ya i knew the coaches was not a lottery.... that was a seperate issue i was raising
rick
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Post by Mathias on Mar 13, 2007 12:55:55 GMT -5
Also, waiver draft - there is a short thread below and Wayne made a very good point there. So, based on that, this year, while UFA age is 30 we will have ONE LAST waiver draft. Next season, when UFA age is lowered to 28, we will NOT have any more waiver drafts. Woho! one last chance for the Bruins to lose even more players!
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Post by LeafEmployee on Mar 13, 2007 15:34:17 GMT -5
As for coaches, I think there should be a better way than a draft. And a much fair one. I mean if coaches have high impact on teams, and long term ones (free agency for coach is quite.. unusual) what are the solutions? redo a draft year after year? I thought it was your idea to do it this way As for long-term, no once we draft them, they get signed like the players...
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Post by Ducks GM on Mar 13, 2007 17:11:27 GMT -5
Waiver draft the only one that was for was Vlad who asked to have a last one. NHL dropped waiver draft since the new CBA, we should do the same now.
Coaches, I still like the idea but the problem is to have them assigned to teams. I am against the draft idea... at least the conventionnal way.
As for coaches impact, I'd like to make a few sim tests.. to see how big the impact is.
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Post by NY Rangers GM on Mar 14, 2007 8:28:05 GMT -5
Martin, the thing is, NHL dropped UFA age right away with the new CBA... we decided to give all GMs a couple of years prior to significant decrease in the UFA age... so in the NHL it all happened at once (and waiver draft is tied to the UFA age in a way)... so, unless you guys want me to drop UFA age this year, we'll have the waiver draft till we actually do it...
As far as Coaches... if you can think of a better way, great, if not, let me know if you want to proceed with the current plan (which is pretty much exactly what you proposed over the e-mail)... if not, than I'll just scrap the coaches altogether..
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Post by DetroitGM on Mar 14, 2007 8:55:22 GMT -5
As for ratings I can help with that
I am formatting all the big Euro leagues (RSL, SEL, FNL, DEL, SUI, CZE, SVK) into one big excel sheet for rating my own league.
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Post by rubendallas on Mar 14, 2007 9:19:01 GMT -5
I also don't like the idea of the Coach draft. I think that coaches should be signed to contracts, like players, with their salaries NOT counting against the cap.
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Post by NY Rangers GM on Mar 14, 2007 10:18:57 GMT -5
Coaching draft would happen only once this summer as part of the total revamping of Coaches. It would be done to make the transition less hectic and to give teams with either bad regular season record and/or bad finance a chance to land a decent coach. Also, if we do go with this plan - drafting a coach does NOT mean you get him.. You will still need to sign him to a contract and I would assume a coach might decided not to agree to an offered deal not only because of $$$ but because of who the team is and who the coach is...
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